#1 11th Jun 2019 19:08:05

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Stronghold Warlords - The Next Stronghold Instalment

Firefly have finally revealed Stronghold Next - Stronghold Warlords. It is set in the far East in the age of the Khans, dating from the 1200s. With a brand new art style and a new game mechanic, Firefly seem to be taking the series in a new direction. There is more to be revealed, but while you wait, take a look at what we can see!

Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kAkpYFJ3xk

Extras
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocU7-o6gsWQ

Let us know your thoughts!


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#2 12th Jun 2019 08:52:18

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Good Job bringing this to our attention, Matthew!

A very interesting idea. Freebuild will be a ''gas''. Looks like my old Ancient China Articles will become ''popular'' yet again.   big_smile


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#3 12th Jun 2019 17:52:23

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Indeed, those are wonderful news! We finally get to see what they plan to bring us next. I still haven't seen the other video, but after Crusader's comments, I have to - as soon as I get home. big_smile

However, I'm not entirely sure whether it's going to be actually good. It seems to be using the same engine as Crusader 2, and somehow it just doesn't give me that nice feeling like the older Stronghold games did - prior to Stronghold 3.

But still, even if it is the same engine, they've showed siege towers in the trailer. It seems promising. Also, they have more different factions, four of them if I'm more mistaken, so all of that promised to be better than Crusader 2.

I will get back to you as soon as I watch the other video as well. smile

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#4 12th Jun 2019 18:23:09

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I have to say, I'm not a huge fan of the art style. And although the new gameplay mechanic is really interesting, it doesn't fit Stronghold. I guess Firefly are trying to refresh the series and attract new players by modernising it somehow.


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#5 12th Jun 2019 19:53:27

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I agree regarding the style. The style reminds me of some old games like Zeus...

What I also don't like is the way they display the fire, it is similar to Crusader 2. It just doesn't feel right. As I often used to say, it would be far better if they made a 2D game, and with exciting gameplay, then those 3D games. But I guess they want to do 3D because they need to sell it for higher price, although after seeing the latest two games - this 3D thing could be beyond their capabilities. We shall see.

And we still don't have unit collision. Not even in 2020...

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#6 12th Jun 2019 22:52:55

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THAT'S what I couldn't remember....

Eagle Prince brought up Sierra Games old ZEUS Game, which as I remember has a companion Game called Middle Kingdom (I think). It reminds me of that, with a little of the old Age of Empire chapters. I still break out my old Pharaoh Game on occasion....

Still, I'll give it a shot........


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#7 13th Jun 2019 12:09:13

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I really like it personally. I think it looks like an exciting alternative to the other games in the series. Annnnnnnd it's good to know Firefly have been reading our site too wink The Snow they have included was on our SH2 suggestions list so I'm really pleased and excited to see they've included that finally.

However, I'm not entirely sure whether it's going to be actually good. It seems to be using the same engine as Crusader 2, and somehow it just doesn't give me that nice feeling like the older Stronghold games did - prior to Stronghold 3.

Yes, I noticed this too. Very disappointing from my perspective as I was hoping they would finally ditch this engine and move onwards. It looks very much like the whole thing is going to be steam-centric again. But I suppose the benefit is that if we get our act together we can quickly become the #1 site for those players who want to seek an alternative. We need as many articles .etc. putting up beforehand as possible, particularly from the older games so when people arrive they realise we're serious. ANy help from anybody would be appreciated smile

It reminds me of that, with a little of the old Age of Empire chapters.

You know what, I think that hits the nail bang on the head, it does look like Age of Empire a bit now doesn't it. A much more advanced version of course.

I'm quite looking forward to this new release. While it doesn't look as much like a Stronghold game, it certainly is a good one for Firefly to release. I hope they're successful with it.


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#8 16th Jun 2019 09:01:31

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Lord_Chris said:

But I suppose the benefit is that if we get our act together we can quickly become the #1 site for those players who want to seek an alternative. We need as many articles .etc. putting up beforehand as possible, particularly from the older games so when people arrive they realise we're serious. ANy help from anybody would be appreciated smile

Unfortunately, I couldn't be as helpful about that as much as I would like to. But I think this is another occasion where I could come up with Tapatalk. smile I really think that for this the forum has to become more mobile friendly. One way to do it is Tapatalk, or another application, and the other way would be making the forum itself more mobile friendly. Though I think the app can help gather more regular visitors, but either way - mobile-friendliness would allow players to visit the website on their phone while playing the game, and stuff like that. It's very hard to compete with Steam whose discussions can be accessed from within the game by Steam Overlay, and with Steam having its own app.

I mean, one could say that the new generations are becoming more lazy, or we could simply agree that they are able to access most of the stuff far more comfortably than we used to be.

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#9 16th Jun 2019 17:38:35

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Unfortunately, we just don't have the funds for an app as it's too costly. I do know a developer who could do one, but it would be costing upwards of £2,000-£4,000 and I just don't think it's worth spending; we simply don't have the kind of traffic yet to justify that money sadly. Then there's the £100 a year fee that Apple charge just to have it on the App Store. The best way to get that traffic, though, is by writing articles etc and attracting it through the web interface first wink

Tapatalk is something which I understand you're very passionate about, but I just can't see at any point in the near future. That said, I can see the issues with the mobile friendliness of the board, but there's not really much I can do I'm afraid- I'm simply not CSS inclined at all.

My skills lie almost exclusively with PHP, for the forum I have to rely on a single CSS developer to create all the styles in his own time. I could ask him to create a new gaming style but it's unlikely to match our theme currently. And he works very slowly too so it would likely be several months before it's complete even if he started now. We're also from different timezones too which makes things slower in communicating. I did go ahead just now and take another look at Tapatalk, but it sounds as if they want to host things on their servers. This brings us into all sorts of legal questions such as with (dare I mention) the new GDPR laws (..yuck) and I just don't feel comfortable with another service passing data or handling any data at all.

I'm just not sure what to suggest, I'm afraid. If you want to discuss this further, though, feel free to make a topic in Site Questions/Support or PM me. smile


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#10 23rd Jul 2019 21:57:40

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This is an interesting video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHCtoqeoMoI&t=331s

Stronghold Warlords will kinda have unit collision. smile Well, better that than nothing, and hopefully we will get unit collision the next time.

At this moment, when units move through other friendly units, their movement looks like they are moving between those other soldiers, and they are even pushing them slightly. Also, they can move in formations. Plus, more importantly, when they fight, it should be impossible to pass through enemy knights like in Stronghold 2, and and it should be impossible for large number of units to attack the smaller group all at once.

We will see. smile

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